A young, progressive, kind elder wants to have a chat with me on Sunday after the meeting. Just him and me. We've talked before and been quite open about the judgemental attitudes 'we' have as witnesses, and he was completely in agreement, stating that he's never understood the beard thing among other issues, and wants to see the society moving forward by change.. I've no doubt he just wants to encourage me to up my hours or reach out again, but it's nerve wracking, as I know I'll say something I'll regret. I don't mind explaining that I've got issues with a doctrine or two but that I'm talking with another elder about these issues (true too, a story for another thread) just to get him off my back, so he knows there IS an issue but it's being sorted. If he asks what doctrines, I'll politely decline, but he's a good chap, in one of his answers recently he pointed out the difference between one who doubts and one who is an apostate, and he's known for his love. Mind you, he's also known for having pet projects. Maybe I should just nod, agree, and keep me stoopid mouth SHUT! Anyways, just an update, (like ds211) let's hope our meetings go OK....
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Blip! The radar has blipped. I'm on it. 'chat' booked in for Sunday.......
by Captain Blithering ina young, progressive, kind elder wants to have a chat with me on sunday after the meeting.
we've talked before and been quite open about the judgemental attitudes 'we' have as witnesses, and he was completely in agreement, stating that he's never understood the beard thing among other issues, and wants to see the society moving forward by change..
i've no doubt he just wants to encourage me to up my hours or reach out again, but it's nerve wracking, as i know i'll say something i'll regret.
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Sheparding Call
by DS211 inat the meeting last night i was approached by an elder and he asked me what my schedule was like for the next week or so.
i told him im not sure ill have to tet back with him and i asked why and he said kindly but in an odd sort of way "for a visit".
my wife and i have not gone out in field service and have been missing meeting left and right mostly due to sickness and family.
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Captain Blithering
Good luck dude. I've got a CHAT planned for Sunday.... ohoh!
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To the gullible jw who beleive (worship) the GB
by bobld inin this weeks wt study p20 para 17 the gb directive in part says "all of us must be ready to obey any instructions we may receive,whether these appear sound from a strategic or human standpoint or not".
it behooves me,how anyone would obey such an organization,when you were told to preach and exhort people with a message(bible doctrine) for over a hundred years(and not question the message or the gb) only to find out the message was false.see wt july 15,2013 p8.-great tribulation did not begin in 1914.judgement of the sheep and goats did not begin in 1914.jesus arrival to appoint the faithful slave did not occur in 1919.wt 1984,1914 the generation that will not pass away.. in your clean christian conscience are you willing to obey such a vacillating organization.the proper thing to do is resign from this organization.
go apolize to the people for misleading them with a false message(doctrine).go preach the true gospel of jesus christ..
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Captain Blithering
Woah bu2b, my wife came out with EXACTLY the same point about the israelites at pihahiroth.... I said it was a bit different with the clear divine leading of the pillar of cloud/fire compared to the non miraculous leading of the 8 stooges. Well, I didn't say stooges, but I thought it.
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I may not be able to hold the status quo for longer!
by ILoveTTATT intoday my mom called me three times at work to tell me how "worried" she was about my spirituality.. i so wanted to tell her some ttatt but just said, "mom, i am fine spiritually.
if i am ever in trouble spiritually, i will tell you.
meanwhile, i would really appreciate it if you left my relationship with god a private matter.".
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Captain Blithering
Phew! Some good ammunition up there from the reasoning book....
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podcast recommendations?
by Captain Blithering ina splendid morning to all you good chaps and chapesses in internetland!
i already listen to 'the human bible' , 'healingxjw' , 'infinite monkey cage' , 'doctor karl' ,(aussie dude, great science show) , but im on the lookout for more podcasts to subscribe to, science, bible, apologetics, comedy, you know the stuff...
any suggestions?
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Captain Blithering
Ahh nice one peeps , I'll get me a-downloadin' tonight. . .
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podcast recommendations?
by Captain Blithering ina splendid morning to all you good chaps and chapesses in internetland!
i already listen to 'the human bible' , 'healingxjw' , 'infinite monkey cage' , 'doctor karl' ,(aussie dude, great science show) , but im on the lookout for more podcasts to subscribe to, science, bible, apologetics, comedy, you know the stuff...
any suggestions?
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Captain Blithering
A splendid morning to all you good chaps and chapesses in Internetland! I already listen to 'the human bible' , 'healingxjw' , 'infinite monkey cage' , 'doctor karl' ,(aussie dude, great science show) , but im on the lookout for more podcasts to subscribe to, science, bible, apologetics, comedy, you know the stuff... Any suggestions?
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How was Adam Perfect? He sinned....Duh
by DS211 inwell an elder brought this up with me and said he didnt understand how adam sinned if he was perfect.
i said i dont see how he couldve sin ed if he was perfect....but he had free will to choose.
i then told him that i thought if god wanted us to obey him the worst thing he could do was create us to have free will.....a side thought i had was:.
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Captain Blithering
Likewise, dead linky...
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Interesting talk ith wife
by DS211 inmy wife expresssd to me as we watched a movie that she really loves how those in christianity dont have to meet requirements to become baptised.
she stated the it seems morenin line with the scriptures.
i agreed with her and brought up the story of cornelius and his family baptised the night he saw paul in the prison cell.
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Captain Blithering
What movie was it dude? Makes my heart rejoice when I hear little stories of tiny steps in the right direction like this.. If I get any I'll post em!
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SEND THEM ALL !!!
by Tech49 ini dont see anyone else mentioning it, so i will: last night at the service meeting there was a letter read, from the most holy 8.. a request for more workers!
and this one with new addendums!
i am pulling from memory, but pretty sure i have it right (feel free to correct me if someone else hears the letter too).. .
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Captain Blithering
Hah! Popelets!!! Good work sir, I hope that catches on!
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Ray Franz
by thedog1 inam reading coc at the moment, about half way through.
just finished reading some of the details of what happened in malawi and mexico years ago.
which reminded me that in the early 80's a very well known elder in the country i was then living in went to new york as he had discovered all the discrepencies between what had happened in malawi and in mexico and wanted to know what the gb had to say about it.
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Captain Blithering
Bumping this thread in case thedog1 hasn't seen this last question, I'd be interested in doctrinal differences of opinion too....